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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 2:44 PM
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Off course I should provide a link of this track which is, IMHO one of the best songs ever made:
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louwhoz
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 2:55 PM
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Ah...the good 'ol days! 
I worked in an alternative clothing store from 1988 to 1990. Music was a big part of our atmosphere, and we played everyone you mentioned. I remember everyone being excited when Kraftwerk were in town. I miss all of the awesome rock posters we carried, too.
I remember telling Gideon that the 'Hair Cutting Fiasco' on Monday did have one saving grace: the Haircut Store was playing Siouxsie.
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM
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I could play Siouxsie all day... When you're getting older you tend to look backwards and that's a good way to decide what songs still are OK after all these years......
So here's another vid of a tune that's still doing it for me after all these years....
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Sonic Wallpaper
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 3:06 PM
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ah yes - the Cure had soooo many excellent tunes. Smith sure made some great guitar parts for those songs.
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 3:22 PM
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Yep, The Cure's still one of my fav. bands....

EDIT:>>> Ever heard the 12"-version of 'Pictures of You?'
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louwhoz
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM
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I drove my parents CRAZY with my dyed-black-ratted-hairsprayed-Robert-Smith-hair. I loved it! 
I don't know how I would have gotten through high school without The Cure, The Smiths, Yaz, Roxy Music, Siouxsie, Depeche Mode, Japan (anyone ever hear 'Tim Drum'?), This Mortal Coil, Joy Division, and on and on...
...I was a lonely youth.
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Sonic Wallpaper
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RE: Must be getting old....
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM
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>>Ever heard the 12"-version of 'Pictures of You?'
no - haven't - what's cool about it? I was more into Depeche Mode those teen years. I had loads of 12" from them.
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Friday, July 18, 2008 at 8:24 AM
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Sonic Wallpaper wrote:>>Ever heard the 12"-version of 'Pictures of You?'
no - haven't - what's cool about it? I was more into Depeche Mode those teen years. I had loads of 12" from them.
It's longer than the 7inch-version....
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Friday, July 18, 2008 at 8:28 AM
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louwhoz wrote:..... I don't know how I would have gotten through high school without The Cure, The Smiths, Yaz, Roxy Music, Siouxsie, Depeche Mode, Japan (anyone ever hear 'Tim Drum'?), This Mortal Coil, Joy Division, and on and on... ....
Almost (partly) exactly the same music I listened too back then...
And yes, I do know Tin Drum, have a copy over here, but haven't heard it for years I must admit...
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Neotone
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RE: Must be getting old....
Friday, July 18, 2008 at 10:38 PM
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Here's some of the artists / albums / tunes that inspired me (not necessarily in this order):
Electronica: Orbital -- In Sides (U.K. release, both CDs)
Non-Electronica: Miami Sound Machine -- Primitive Love The B52s -- Cosmic Thing (the album) ZZ Top -- Waitin for the Bus, Precious and Grace, others The Cars -- self titled album (plus a couple others) The Police -- Synchronicity (album and song) Beck -- Odelay (particularly Devil's Haircut) David Bowie -- Let's Dance, Ashes to Ashes, others (but particularly those two) Madonna -- Vogue, others
As you can see, I've been exposed pretty much to just plain old pop music... that's what my parents listened to, and I never got to shop at a record store which sold electronica (because Potlatch, town of 900, doesn't have one). But these songs really shine.
I also listened to Chemical Bros. and The Crystal Method, but while I liked their songs, none of them really inspired me the way Orbital's In Sides (UK release) did. I remember listening to the whole album, both CDs, start to finish, then starting over again, and again and again. I couldn't get over how beautiful it was!
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RE: Must be getting old....
Friday, July 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM
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Neotone:
You should check out the early (80's) recordings of peeps like Coil, clockDVA, Alien Sex Fiend and Severed Heads. The vocal work is expecially of note. I think you'll be pleaseantly surprised and quite possibly hooked.
βAny intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius β and a lot of courage β to move in the opposite direction.β Albert Einstein
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~ Absurdist Lover ~
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RE: Must be getting old....
Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 5:05 AM
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This is so "my" song, for so many different reasons.
I think this song also taught me my love of strong melody and harmony. I heard it at an impressionable age and very thankful for that
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~ Absurdist Lover ~
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RE: Must be getting old....
Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 5:13 AM
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Also, not exactly oldschool but Orbus Terrarum is still one of my favourite albums and I don't even 'listen' to 'ambient' 'music' anymore 
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 11:31 AM
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Neotone wrote:Here's some of the artists / albums / tunes that inspired me (not necessarily in this order):
Electronica: Orbital -- In Sides (U.K. release, both CDs)
Non-Electronica: Miami Sound Machine -- Primitive Love The B52s -- Cosmic Thing (the album) ZZ Top -- Waitin for the Bus, Precious and Grace, others The Cars -- self titled album (plus a couple others) The Police -- Synchronicity (album and song) Beck -- Odelay (particularly Devil's Haircut) David Bowie -- Let's Dance, Ashes to Ashes, others (but particularly those two) Madonna -- Vogue, others
As you can see, I've been exposed pretty much to just plain old pop music... that's what my parents listened to, and I never got to shop at a record store which sold electronica (because Potlatch, town of 900, doesn't have one). But these songs really shine.
I also listened to Chemical Bros. and The Crystal Method, but while I liked their songs, none of them really inspired me the way Orbital's In Sides (UK release) did. I remember listening to the whole album, both CDs, start to finish, then starting over again, and again and again. I couldn't get over how beautiful it was!
Ah, yes!
The B-52's...especially the first album with the classic 'Rock Lobster' ! And Bowie, I especially like his older singles (pre-'Let's' Dance...), the albums I didn't really like...
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Monday, July 21, 2008 at 2:22 PM
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Sonic Wallpaper wrote:.... I was more into Depeche Mode those teen years. I had loads of 12" from them.
I still am....especially the 12" remixes....
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Monday, July 21, 2008 at 2:24 PM
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Tomorrow I'll try to remember what came after Siouxsie, The Cure, Joy Division, etcetera......
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just john
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RE: Must be getting old....
Monday, July 21, 2008 at 3:24 PM
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A Bit Crusher wrote:Tomorrow I'll try to remember what came after Siouxsie, The Cure, Joy Division, etcetera......
Dammit, I so want to guess, but you leave your birth year out of your profile, so I'm unsure about when you got into the aforementioned.
Me, Siouxsie's The Scream became a favorite right away, and ever since. About that time, I was digesting Patti Smith's second album and Television's first. Then came the Pretenders, the Clash's London Calling, Joe Jackson's first two, Wall of Voodoo, Laurie Anderson ...
Although I bought each Siouxsie album as it came out after that, I didn't get into their later stuff that much until Through the Looking Glass, which I'd often put on shuffle play along with Tori Amos' Strange Little Girls. Since then, I've gone back to the middle releases with a greater appetite.
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Must be getting old....
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 12:40 AM
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just john wrote:[quote="A Bit Crusher"]Tomorrow I'll try to remember what came after Siouxsie, The Cure, Joy Division, etcetera......
Dammit, I so want to guess, but you leave your birth year out of your profile, so I'm unsure about when you got into the aforementioned.
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Didn't leave it out on purpose though!

The Siouxsie-thing started a bit later on for me: I think it was with 'Kaleidoscope' (not sure anymore), I heard earlier music before, but I think these tunes somehow didn't work for me at first....
Television is unknown to me (sorry!), Joe Jackson too poppy for me, Wall of Voodoo does ring a bell, but I can't remember 1 single song...I'll have to do a bit of investigating. I really loved (still do) 'Dancing Barefoot' and 'Because The Night', but I'm not really familiar with Patti's other work.... Lauri Anderson, really liked some of her work, but haven't really listened to her the last couple of years, not really sure it still would have the same impact on me now as hearing 'O Superman' for the first time many years ago.....
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Sonic Wallpaper
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RE: Must be getting old....
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 8:27 AM
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Years back I wrote up a list of what artists I felt had some influence on my music. Hmm - it would be fun to turn it into a list of videos at some time
As you can see, something happened in 1985 and I began to move out of the 80's music and into jam music, mostly Rock - some Jazz. Then a decade later - another shift happened, and I found electronic music and loving it ever since 
Artist/Group Year ================= 1983 B-52's 1983 Thomas Dolby 1983 Tears For Fears 1983 Talking Heads 1984 Depeche Mode 1984 U2 1985 Pink Floyd 1985 Red Hot Chili Peppers 1986 Led Zeppelin 1987 Grateful Dead 1987 Kitaro 1987 Igor Stravinski 1987 Michael Hedges 1987 Mahavishnu Orchestra 1987 John McLaughlin 1988 Beatles 1989 John Coltrane 1989 Miles Davis 1991 Phish 1993 Peter Gabriel 1994 Herbie Hancock 1995 MC 900ft Jesus 1995 Ambient music 1996 Acid Jazz music 1997 Higher Intelligence Agency 1997 Drum 'N' Bass Music 1997 Trip Hop Music 1997 Spacetime Continuum 1998 Goldie 1998 DJ Shadow 1998 DJ Spooky 1998 Roni Size/Repreznat 1998 Squarepusher 1999 Wagon Christ 1999 u-ziq 1999 ORB 2000 Future Sound of London 2001 Flanger/Sr. Coconut/Atom Heart 2002 Shpongle
And after 2002, it's been fewer artists - but I'm sure I could figure out some more. Dub music should be there at around 2005/6.
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just john
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RE: Must be getting old....
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 8:30 AM
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A Bit Crusher wrote:just john wrote:A Bit Crusher wrote:Tomorrow I'll try to remember what came after Siouxsie, The Cure, Joy Division, etcetera...... Dammit, I so want to guess, but you leave your birth year out of your profile, so I'm unsure about when you got into the aforementioned. ..... Didn't leave it out on purpose though!  The Siouxsie-thing started a bit later on for me: I think it was with 'Kaleidoscope' (not sure anymore), I heard earlier music before, but I think these tunes somehow didn't work for me at first.... Television is unknown to me (sorry!), Joe Jackson too poppy for me, Wall of Voodoo does ring a bell, but I can't remember 1 single song...I'll have to do a bit of investigating. I really loved (still do) 'Dancing Barefoot' and 'Because The Night', but I'm not really familiar with Patti's other work.... Lauri Anderson, really liked some of her work, but haven't really listened to her the last couple of years, not really sure it still would have the same impact on me now as hearing 'O Superman' for the first time many years ago.....
As far as lyrics go, Horses, Patti Smith's first album, was the scariest fucking thing we (college-aged kids) had ever heard. It hit me like Coltrane's Meditations did. The tracks you mention are much later, and "poppy."
I don't know if there could be a Cure without Television. (Their albums Marquee Moon and Adventure, as well as the players' solo albums are the good stuff -- ie: Their eponymous reunion album just doesn't have the magic.)
The reason I specify Joe Jackson's first two is that he worked with guitar-bass-drums plus his vocals, piano and melodica. So he was using his arrangement talents on a basic rock band. Also, who can resist lyrics like: Mother doesn't go out any more / She just sits at home and rolls her spastic eyes? The bassist on these was Graham Maby, who later played with TMBG.
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