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Live gear?
Created on: 04/16/07 11:47 PM Replies: 4

OK I have been the token beer drinking bass player dude for all of my adult life. BEER

I gave up being in the "rock" band thang and now have been a knob tweeker for the last 5 years.

I havent done the one man live electro thing yet.

I am having a hard time with just taking a laptop and replaying .wav files back...it seems like cheating. on the other hand I dont want to take all my gear to the show.

So here is the question:

what do you/others do in the live setting?

Here is what I am thinking of doing.

laptop running sonar6 all bounced to 4 stereo sub mixes ran to the outs on a firewire device like firestudio. that way I have more control over all of the mix and the sound guy just has 8 tracks to deal with. a controller key board, my laptop novation nova, and Cs6r controlled via novation X-station. ( if I ran a second fire studio I could record my live set in real tracks not just 2track stereo )

I dont have any real vocals but I do have some vocoding via the nova.

so thats 13 tracks total to the sound guy.

Is this an exceptable live rig?

Is it really cheating running .wavs as opposed to running all midi tracks to real gear?

I have local intrest in me playing out again. I want to do this right and I have a 2K budget to get my self ready for live.

I mean I could just run a 24bit .wav and be done with it........but hope it isnt done that way....LOL

please help I wanna start playing out in june.

thankyou

rocking out

l8r

P

P.S. is sonar stable enough to handle that kind of play back? What softwares should I look into for my needs?

Edited 04/17/07 12:02 AM

Lagrange4 wrote:
I am having a hard time with just taking a laptop and replaying .wav files back...it seems like cheating. on the other hand I dont want to take all my gear to the show.


I wouldn't sweat that. I shared a stage with a dude once where all he did was press play and then played solitaire while his tracks rolled. Rolling Eyes


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what do you/others do in the live setting?


I've only ever played small clubs (50-100 peep capacity) so my experience is limited. But, for what it's worth here's what i do.

My 'footprint' is really small now. Laptop (new one on order), Oxygen8, Cubase SX 2.0, Reason 3.0, EuroRack MX602A, FX Rack (4 space thingy w/slideout shelf for the Oxy), some external toys (Type U-73, Photo-therimin, Buddha Machine, pedals, etc). It all stacks nicely on a table-top. VSTi's are sequenced in Cubase (and I can tweak them with a mouse) and I 'tweak' Reason with the Oxy8 and my other toys 'on-the-fly'. That way I at least look like I'm doing something other than play solitaire. Very Happy


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laptop running sonar6 all bounced to 4 stereo sub mixes ran to the outs on a firewire device like firestudio. that way I have more control over all of the mix and the sound guy just has 8 tracks to deal with. a controller key board, my laptop novation nova, and Cs6r controlled via novation X-station. ( if I ran a second fire studio I could record my live set in real tracks not just 2track stereo )


That's certainly a nice setup. I find most sound dudes (if the show actually has one) are much happier if you only send them 2 lines (left/right) as opposed to several. Get yourself a mixer.


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so thats 13 tracks total to the sound guy.


if you're a solo act for the night I'm sure this would be managable, but if you're sharing a stage the sound dude will prob'ly turn up his/her nose at that much info coming down the pipe. That's a lot to deal with for only one act. Of course, if you're playing to 100,000 people, then they are prob'ly already setup for multi tracking.

I don't know anything about Sonar... I don't know

Good luck... and have a blast!!

cheers
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Cool thankyou for answering my questions Cool, right on.

I dont really need a mixer if all the sound guy needs is 1 stereo track. ( Back to my little joke of running a 24 bit wav.)
Twisted Evil

I see your point I have a few mixers lying around but wasnt sure if i needed them. I had thought about bying a new yamaha rack mixer just for the live show. ( guess I will now, they are cheap these days )
Laughing

Laptop and solataire?
WTF?
hmmm... huh?
Anger - grrrrrr!

Yeah I am with you I have ta be tweeking knobs or why am I even there.

Well thankyou again for the feedback.

anyone else, whats your live rig and why?

rocking

L8r

P


I have played as a solo electronic artist in both ways; using hardware and sequencers, and using a laptop with a small amount of hardware to add a more spontaneous element to it. If you decide to go the laptop route, effects, especially dyanamic ones like Kaoss Pads and boxes with knobs (think Sherman Filterbank, etc) are a great way to add an element of diversity to your performance. One suggestion I can can make is to really KNOW whatever gear you play live with. It sucks worse than anything when something takes a shit and there are fifty places where there could be a problem; when you play bass in a band, as I also did for years, it was the cable, the bass, or the amp and you could pretty quickly figure it out by trial and error. Technology adds to what we do, but it can also frustrate the hell out of you when it takes a crap.
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I am having a hard time with just taking a laptop and replaying .wav files back...it seems like cheating.


yes, it is cheating.


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Is it really cheating running .wavs as opposed to running all midi tracks to real gear?


listen...your conscience is trying to tell you something.
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