hellscion
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Arbiter.. typical industrial I guess. I actually worked on this one for weeks..
Hellscion - Arbiter
Transformation: I'm in ur speakers, rokkin ur subconscious!
Hellscion - Transformation
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Sunday, March 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM
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DL-ing.....
BTW...I'm so happy that my connection is speedy again....it was soooooo slooooowwwww the last couple of weeks....
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DoublePlusGood
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RE: more new music..
Sunday, March 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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Listening to Arbiter.
I dig the groove, I like some of the highly resonated synths that come in like 3/4 of the song, and the way that the rhythm kinda skips up towards the end is cool, actually I would have liked ot hear that more throughout the song. I'm listening on a laptop, can't give much comment about frequencies, but plays nicely. Nice job!
-Erik
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Subtronik
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RE: more new music..
Sunday, March 8, 2009 at 8:09 PM
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Arbiter sounds good, although I was hoping for a bigger sound overall after it started.
The beats work well for this. I like the distorted synths.
Transformation isn't as good but has potential. Not sure if it needs a change in direction or some better sequencing or both.
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hellscion
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RE: more new music..
Monday, March 9, 2009 at 10:01 AM
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Thanks for listenin fellas 
@subtronik: Good ear, argh matey. Actually neither of these tracks were mastered or optimized at all.. just a wav from the master out that I converted to mp3.
Transformatiobn is actually a really detailled & intricate song, just really weird as a whole. it's idmdustrial.... 
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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hellscion
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RE: more new music..
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 10:50 AM
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why do i have that deja vu feeling all of the sudden.. 
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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Listening to Arbiter now....
I like the track (first impression), but you should work on the sound....
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 12:13 PM
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Now listening to Transformation...this sounds like it has been made for the picture above (??).
I agree with Sub: this track really has potential, again you should work on the sound....
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hellscion
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RE: more new music..
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM
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Hmmm well the full story behind these tracks is that both of them were made for compilation competition things on idmforums.com.. where someone told me that when you submitted something to a compilation or cd like that they do the mastering & it is better not to use things like compressors, reverb, audio enhancers, etc because that is part of the mastering process.
Then reading further I found that what we do with with our pcs & DAWs is create a 'pre-master' or something & not the same thing as the 'master' you send your stuff to a studio or mastering house for.
OK So then i learned a little more about that. Apparently the real difference is that when you send stuff to a studio or mastering house is that they master your songs so that they work more as an 'album'  & so there is nothing to be learned from this practice in general. some people just know more about making music sound better. There are pleny, if not more, artists & labels that release crappy music..
Heh, ok so the point in those last few paragraphs was that I submitted these 2 songs for compilations that would have someone master them if they were selected for the albums. From what I gather people at record labels & shit already know what they're looking for in songs, and also what they can do with it..
That last emoticon isn't directed at you, more the last several years i spent researching & trying to learn what people were talking about sometimes.. Personally I can make almost any song sound fine if I adjust my speaker volume & EQ a little......
Thanks for listening to my songs though
um.. Oh, on the picture.. sometimes I search through stock photo & creative commons sites for things which might be useful. or inspiring.. when I made both these songs & 'movement' I just listened to the song while looking through the images & tried to find what seemed to fit..
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM
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hellscion wrote:.... Personally I can make almost any song sound fine if I adjust my speaker volume & EQ a little......
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Are you referring to commercial releases?
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DoublePlusGood
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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Quote: That last emoticon isn't directed at you
I know, that little guy looks angry 
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Sendy
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 3:59 PM
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The way I understand mastering and production is that you should leave master effects, i.e. effects applied to the track or maybe album as a whole, to the mastering expert, but still you have to use compressors and eq's etc on your individual channels, to improve your mixing, and because it's part of the way the sound fits together, which is part of composing these days.
Mastering doesn't really change how the sounds fit together, but operates more on the overall impact of the whole track, or how a track sits with other tracks (and by tracks, I mean songs, not individual recording channels  )
Hope that helps some and if anyone has any corrections speak now.
I will teach you the significance of insignificance
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Subtronik
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 4:24 PM
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I just select a preset that makes everything sound better 
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hellscion
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM
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A Bit Crusher wrote:Are you referring to commercial releases?
Sorry i momentarily forgot about this thread. I meant with un-processed tracks such as these 2.. whenever I listen to music for my own amusement the only thing i really like to turn up is the bass.. and the pre-amp, for that aggressive distorted gain effect.
Sendy wrote:The way I understand mastering and production is that you should leave master effects, i.e. effects applied to the track or maybe album as a whole, to the mastering expert, but still you have to use compressors and eq's etc on your individual channels, to improve your mixing, and because it's part of the way the sound fits together, which is part of composing these days. Mastering doesn't really change how the sounds fit together, but operates more on the overall impact of the whole track, or how a track sits with other tracks (and by tracks, I mean songs, not individual recording channels ) Hope that helps some and if anyone has any corrections speak now.
It is possible to use things like compressors in the mixing process of your songs but unless you have enough skill to do that, it is recommended not to use anything to enhance the audio because ultimately when you send something to be masterred, that's what they're supposed to be doing..
Subtronik wrote:I just select a preset that makes everything sound better
 You really shouldn't do that.
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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Subtronik
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
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Yeah I'm new at this 
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hellscion
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RE: more new music..
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 6:14 PM
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surrrrre.
And an inside joke is created, at my expense. damn yous!!!
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Thursday, March 19, 2009 at 6:28 AM
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Subtronik wrote:I just select a preset that makes everything sound better
I start with a preset (sometimes 1 I made myself), but it's almost impossible to not change any settings at all when workin with a new track.....at least IMHO....
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Thursday, March 19, 2009 at 6:30 AM
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Subtronik wrote:Yeah I'm new at this
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hellscion
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RE: more new music..
Thursday, March 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM
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hellscion - rava
Rava. didn't feel this one was quite worthy of its' own thread..
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have." - Frederick Keonig
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: more new music..
Friday, March 20, 2009 at 5:08 AM
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hellscion wrote:hellscion - ravaRava. didn't feel this one was quite worthy of its' own thread..
So give me 1 good reason to listen.....
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