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Latest finished track
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM
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This one has me leaping around and bouncing off of the walls, usually a good sign 
"User Friendly Destruction"
Typical track you'd expect from me, though I do think my phrasing and manipulation is getting more slick, and I'm really pleased with the mix too. It's long and GNARLY.
Stream - Download
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Sonic Wallpaper
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RE: Latest finished track
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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downloaded!
 I'll give it a listen after I'm done with my Amon Tobin playlist 
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absurdist lover
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RE: Latest finished track
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM
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You are able to resist my allure. How is this possible? 
Also, post any new tunes you (the people) have in this thread - especially if its' something I'm going to like.
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Subtronik
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RE: Latest finished track
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 9:22 PM
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Sounds like industrial acid jazz. It has it's moments. Some parts are too chaotic for my tastes but it's a creative track all around.
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Latest finished track
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 10:55 AM
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Streaming....
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RE: Latest finished track
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM
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Thanks for listening. I can't get by without that chaos to be honest. 
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: Latest finished track
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM
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Streaming again...
I think this track is great, especially the intro...but IMHO it would be even better when there would be a less chaotic part in it; just the chords, for example...
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Jeff Harrington
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RE: Latest finished track
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM
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Wow, this is an extremely cool new song. We just listened to it and it is just MASSIVE. Rich textures, and transparent densities and tunes that stick in your head. Congratulations! This is one of your best snogs yet!
I would say that although the ending is interesting, I'd cut it about 75% in. It never seems to pick up momentum after that huge climax and then it is interesting, but once you start losing momentum, you've just got to admit it, fix it or cut it, IMO.
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hellscion
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RE: Latest finished track
Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 11:52 AM
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what the hell?
ok that was a joke.. anyways, cool tones and melodies, glitched-out breakbeat, and flow. i dont agree with what the others have said about chaos.. sounded good to me  music is more interesting when it pushes the boundaries of the concievable.. cool song though
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Danny K
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RE: Latest finished track
Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 7:48 PM
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weird - as ever.
Good to see you back on the block. 
Is that the amen break? Is there any other break>>?? I've only used it once.
I don't know how you've kept a handle on everything here - I'm thoroughly confused though it builds well. I'm guessing its your first track in a while - it has that growing, muscle-flexing, post-hibernation vibe to it.
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RE: Latest finished track
Monday, June 23, 2008 at 4:09 AM
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A Bit Crusher wrote:Streaming again... I think this track is great, especially the intro...but IMHO it would be even better when there would be a less chaotic part in it; just the chords, for example...
I'll give that idea a shot, but to be honest, I believe this track to be finished. I really do intend to write a track that's more chord/melody and less rhythm based. It's just I seem to have some kind of addiction
Thanks for listening.
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absurdist lover
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RE: Latest finished track
Monday, June 23, 2008 at 4:14 AM
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Jeff Harrington wrote:Wow, this is an extremely cool new song. We just listened to it and it is just MASSIVE. Rich textures, and transparent densities and tunes that stick in your head. Congratulations! This is one of your best snogs yet! I would say that although the ending is interesting, I'd cut it about 75% in. It never seems to pick up momentum after that huge climax and then it is interesting, but once you start losing momentum, you've just got to admit it, fix it or cut it, IMO.
Thanks ^_^
Honestly, I was reminded of you several times writing this, so I suspected you'd like it. I also think this is a personal best and a satisfying landmark after months of desolate lack of inspiration.
You may also notice I'm trying to incorporate at least one non 12-tet part into my songs these days, it's amazing the difference it makes to a sound. Everyone who makes music is falling into the same tonal groove over and over again and it's great to sidestep this
I can't change the end though I do know what you mean about the climax, I kinda like how the end is like the calm after the rapids, it will fit well in an album in that respect.
My friend was actually floored by that little ending click, she thought it was one of the more original things she'd heard lately and a little unhinged 
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RE: Latest finished track
Monday, June 23, 2008 at 4:19 AM
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hellscion wrote:what the hell? ok that was a joke.. anyways, cool tones and melodies, glitched-out breakbeat, and flow. i dont agree with what the others have said about chaos.. sounded good to me music is more interesting when it pushes the boundaries of the concievable.. cool song though
I didn't think it was chaotic in an offputting way either, but then since I spent hours working out the flow (I'm a lot less lazy with drum programming, I will admit in the early days I hardly ever deleted anything especially if it 'sounded cool' but didn't quite fit in) I may be biased
The boundaries of the concievable... That is precicely it. Some music is 'just' a sweet groove, and some really tries to get into your head. In a way I'm trying to provide a demonstration of infinity. It probably all hinges on matters of taste.
Thanks for listening.
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RE: Latest finished track
Monday, June 23, 2008 at 4:27 AM
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Danny K wrote:weird - as ever. Good to see you back on the block. Is that the amen break? Is there any other break>>?? I've only used it once. I don't know how you've kept a handle on everything here - I'm thoroughly confused though it builds well. I'm guessing its your first track in a while - it has that growing, muscle-flexing, post-hibernation vibe to it.
Thanks ^_^. Yes this is my first in a very long time, though I have some unfinished snippets which I may post, from my 'downtime'. Lack of inspiration to finish these, plus I lost some to a crash and have only 'test mixdowns'.
Glad you seemed to find it engaging. I should probably try laying off the complexity on some songs just for balance but at heart I'm just a showoff. 
There is an amen break in there for support ( because nothing is harder ;) ) but the main break is a slightly jazzy clattery number that I can't identify now because once it's chopped to buggery it sounds more like a drum kit than a breakbeat sample.
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~ Absurdist Lover ~
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RE: Latest finished track
Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 12:24 PM
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Oh,please-don't-be-put-off-by-the-fact-that-I-may-seem-full-of-myself 
Gideon,what-did-you-think?
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S.A. Fred
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RE: Latest finished track
Thursday, July 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM
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Been listening to this on rotation this week.
I have to say this track stood out for me, excellent work! Its mental, a chaotic banging assault on the ear drums in its introduction; swiftly moving to a chord progression evocative of something like Plaid! The chords in particular are very nice, constantly ascending, descending, lovely stuff. Liking the drum work also, nicely done percussion madness!
In sum up, its a very Warp inspired track, a cross between Aphex and Plaid but evolved into something new, interesting and creative, constantly interesting, never a dull moment!
Nice one
Pete
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Brillman
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RE: Latest finished track
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 at 8:08 AM
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Ok, a bit late on responding to this one but couldn't get my message to post a few days ago.
The bass is heavy, the melodies are nice and out of tune. The whole thing explodes around 1.30, great!!
The following part is excellent, arps, chords, counter melodies and that fantastically frantic bass just makes this sound like a classic track imho
Around 3" the whole thing dissolves and becomes more fragmented. I would say that right around now a B part could have entered. Ah, after 5" the previous chord progressions disappear and things go slightly mad and rather dissonant. The speeding up of the bass around 6" juxtaposed against the out of tune synths is very cool. Then the chords return together with an arp.
Ok, excellent creativity and a very original style but on the whole too long. If you had a 2nd part somewhere in the middle i feel the track/song would have been more complete. Still really good stuff and very interesting!
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Sonic Wallpaper
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RE: Latest finished track
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 8:51 AM
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Sorry for the delayed review...
those intro blips for some reason sounds like they would be transition sounds for a news show in the 70s.
I like how your bass came into the mix - do you use glide on your bass lines? Or is that bending I'm hearing just pitch bends?
the underlying synth is great - sounds like vintage Squarepusher - do you have an SH101?
I love the cut up breaks - I'm just feeling they aren't as punchy in the mix as they could be.
Are you still using a sampler for the beats? Seems your method is much more dynamic than mine when it comes to tweaking the heck out of beats. You're the Queen of Frantic Beats!
Nice change up/break down section near 5:15. Mmmm even more tweaked out now - is that a ring modulator freaking out the sounds?
6:25 - another cool change - now the background synths remind me of the Van Halen "Jump" synth sound (sorry!)
a definite keeper!
Any idea how many hours went into this tune?
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~ Absurdist Lover ~
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RE: Latest finished track
Friday, July 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM
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I'm still using all software, for example all of the drums were done on halion with absolutely no waveform/destructive editing (I seem to have moved away from that in favour of choosing a few effects and techniques and using automation to 'play' them into the arrangement). Paying attention to the velocity of each individual note is also important in making a drum track 'bounce' along vivaciously.
One important thing with the beats is that I do cut every individual hit out of my loops, and spend a long time EQ-ing out any ringing tones in the samples. Then I will make stretched copies of each one (sometimes using timestretching and other times, convolving them with white noise to create infinite sustain) so that I can prolong any hit as needed and not be limited to the lengths of the original samples (which are often very short in complex drumming passages in the source material).
In some cases, I will also separate the attack from the sustain from each hit in cooledit, and have them both playing simultaneously on two different sampler channels, which gives another level of control over expressiveness - but I didn't do that at all on this track ^_^
A lot of the detail comes from extensive use of groove quantizing and manipulating the timing on a micro level. The difference between a straight 16th snarerush, and a slightly swung one, for example, can make all the difference.
I forget what synth the bass was done on, but I did have a glide setting so that notes that overlap in duration are bent. A couple of places I also used a bit of pitchbend. I find paying attention to the minutiae of pitch can really add a level of professionalism; suddenly you go from a set of midi note on's and offs, to a synth which is actually 'talking' to the listener, if you know what I mean.
This track came together rather quickly taking an estimate of 4 sessions of 6 hours.
EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to say, yes that is ring modulation on the bassline there.
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Neotone
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RE: Latest finished track
Sunday, July 27, 2008 at 12:13 PM
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Very good, I love the sequence at the beginning, although I expected a bit more heavy bass drum... at 0:14 and throughout. I like the chord progression which starts at 1:55. The synths all sound good.
Overall, a great track
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