Multi-Panel
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midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 1:20 AM
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hi guys 
well i want to buy a midi controller.
some of you might know my setup consists of a dell laptop and a tascam us-122.
http://www.tascam.com/Products/US-122.html
i surfed around for a cheap midi controller and found this one:
http://www.kijkshop.nl/product/15868/324/beeld_geluid/muziekinstrumenten/accessoires/miditech-midi-controller/
now i have 1 simple question.
would it be possible (or even logical) to connect this controller via a simple midi in & out cable with my tascam.. or should i connect this controller DIRECTLY with my laptop using the usb port.
i am not much of a tech guy so hopefully someone can offer some input
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(((stereofect)))
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 5:16 AM
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What?... no knobs?... no trigger pads?... no sliders?... no transport buttons?
Unless I'm just not understanding what it's capable of doing, it seems more like just a KBoard than a controller. Unless that's all you want. Myself, I need my controller to be more tactile. I want to twist knobs, push buttons, tap pads. Get busy child... know what I mean?
The Tascam thingy looks pretty nice. Though you'd prob'ly want to connect your controller directly to your laptop via USB, if possible. Would prob'ly help eliminate some latency probs you might encounter.
“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius — and a lot of courage — to move in the opposite direction.” Albert Einstein
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 7:01 AM
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Hmmmm...if you only want to play some keys, this could be OK...but only a ModWheel and a PichBendWheel wouldn't be enough for me....
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Sonic Wallpaper
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 7:53 AM
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yes - use the midi on the tascam - it will work just fine for your needs.
One thing you can also consider, is that almost any keyboard that supports midi can be used as your midi controller. The one I used for years and live is actually a cheap 'home' keyboard with only 4 sounds. I took out the insides that dealt with the sound out of it(to make it lighter), and used it as a controller. I paid $30 and it has 61 full-size keys. So - look for used equipment, even cheap keyboards - as they'll work just fine.
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 8:04 AM
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BTW Ludo...don't know if this keyboard is velocity sensitive...this could be important for you...
It isn't mentioned in the ad....
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Multi-Panel
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:31 PM
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ahaa thanks for the input guys
maybe midi controller was the wrong word.
the only thing i want is.. like.. say i have a sample of a bell.. (or xylophone) then i want to play a melody with keys
i do have a HUGE keyboard that can be connected..
i just need something smaller.
ModWheel and a PichBendWheel .. hehe i hardly know what they are.. ;)
heheh Gideon's story cracks me up..  you are a handy guy.. 61 keys, nice
but A Bit Crusher's last point might be the best one.. the velocity would be nice..
i'll think about it some more. maybe i'll buy it anyway, but that would be kind of decadent maybe 
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Multi-Panel
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:38 PM
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hey a bit crusher (i think your name's roland or ronald.. roland would be cooler though)
anyway, look at this:
http://www.musicallin.nl/online_winkel/computer_en_muziek/keyboard_midi_controllers/maudio_keystation_49
would this be a better choice, or maybe there's hardly any difference. i see they got a lot of stuff in that shop... this m-audio looks more promising than buying something at the f**** kijkshop 
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Lagrange4
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 2:22 PM
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I have been using a old yamaha CS1x for years now as my main controller. Got it at a pawn shop for 125. I just bought a novation X-station25 for all the knobs and the keys are like butter. Novation remote series are great controllers also.
And no I dont work for novation 
l8r
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Multi-Panel
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Friday, April 27, 2007 at 12:28 AM
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hehe those novation controllers i checked looked kind of complicated.
(though very cool)
i'll think i'll go for m-audio.. 
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A Bit Crusher
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Friday, April 27, 2007 at 11:51 AM
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Multi-Panel wrote:hey a bit crusher (i think your name's roland or ronald.. roland would be cooler though) anyway, look at this: http://www.musicallin.nl/online_winkel/computer_en_muziek/keyboard_midi_controllers/maudio_keystation_49would this be a better choice, or maybe there's hardly any difference. i see they got a lot of stuff in that shop... this m-audio looks more promising than buying something at the f**** kijkshop
Hey Ludo, this looks like a very good offer and the keyboard IS velocity sensitive...I wouldn't buy one without that feature....
Greetings, Roland (Which is a cool name, indeed!!!)
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Multi-Panel
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 12:53 AM
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well i ordered it now let's see how fast they'll handle my order. right now they've confirmed my e-mail, but i have yet to see any instruction how i am supposed to pay for this..
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Multi-Panel
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RE: midi controller & tascam
Saturday, May 5, 2007 at 12:45 PM
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well every story needs an end.
(so i'll provide it)
yeah the m-audio thingie arrived, looks great.. a lil' bigger than i expected.
anyway, connected it with usb AND midi.. and now it's working in fruityloops.
it came with Ableton which i just installed.. err Ableton Lite or something.. anyway, i need to read a manual i guess, cause i couldn't get a sound out of it.. except for a demo song, which was semi-working, because it used so many options, if i would fully enjoy it i had to ........... UPGRADE. yeah of course.. commercials commercials
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